Цитата(Васильев Александр @ 17.2.2011, 18:27)
Именно поэтому, хоть в отношении их и употребляется термин возрождение - "the new creation of the man of the Most Ancient Church, thus his regeneration", но в контексте "новое творение из чистого материала"...Когда же говорится о возрождении в контексте послепотоплных, то там не идёт дело не о "новом творении". Потому что для "нового творения" всё старое пришлось бы свести по корень. А задача была - "спасти", или же "восстановить старое творение".
Слово говорит о понятиях в разных значениях (о чем я писал выше), поэтому не вижу проблем в прямом использовании терминологии Слова. Ведь если, например, целиком и полностью законсервировать/забетонировать цокольный или даже первый этаж одноэтажного дома, и сделать надстройку, провести лестницу и т.д., то о доме с новым этажем вполне можно сказать, что это теперь новый дом. Если проводить
историческое сравнение с Древнейшей Церковью, то можно сказать, что все последующие - это уже как бы не совсем то
"новое" творение, как оно было в Древнейшей, но с другой стороны термин "новое творение" употребляется и по отношению к послепотопным (см. ниже), и поэтому можно просто следовать за терминологией Третьего Завета, хотя при этом можно каждый раз подразумевать несколько различающиеся понятия.
Вот пример, где Библейский термин "новое творение" (
поясняется; и относится к Древнейшей, так и послепотопным Церквям:
По отношению к Небесной:
AC 9340 ... the subject treated of in the first chapter of Genesis in the internal sense is the new creation,
that is, the regeneration, of the man of the celestial church.
Coronis 25
But, on the other hand, the man who strives and labors to become an "image of God," subdues the external man in himself, and interiorly in the natural becomes spiritual, thus spiritual-natural; and this is effected by a new creation, that is, regeneration by the Lord.
AE 790
From this it can be seen that man is not a man from his parents, but from the Lord, of whom he is born and created anew. This, therefore, is regeneration and a new creation.
AC 4 Здесь говорится о новом творении или возрождении человека вообще, и человека Древнейшей Церкви в частности
...the first chapter of Genesis in the internal sense treats in general of the new creation of man, or of his regeneration, and specifically of the Most Ancient Church;
Coronis 23 At the outset, however, some passages shall be adduced from the Word, by which it is proved, that by "creating" is there signified to produce and form anew, and properly to regenerate; which is the reason that regeneration is called a new creation, by which the whole heaven of angels and the whole church of men, exist, consist and subsist.
Здесь поясняется, каким образом новом творение соотносится с возрождением/новым рождением:
AC 16 Verse 1. In the beginning God created the heavens [coelum] and the earth. The most ancient time is called "the beginning." By the prophets it is in various places called the "days of old" [antiquitatis] and also the "days of eternity." The "beginning" also involves the first period when man is being regenerated, for he is then born anew, and receives life. Regeneration itself is therefore called a "new creation" of man.
Вот о последовательности новых рождений (иначе их можно бы назвать возрождениями):
4378. And that the flocks and the herds are suckling with me. That this signifies goods both interior and natural, which as yet have not acquired Divine life, is evident from the signification of "flocks," as being interior goods (n. 2566, 3783); and from the signification of "herds," as being exterior or natural goods (n. 2566, and further, n. 2180, 2781); and from the signification of "suckling," as being also recent goods, here spiritual goods that are being born in the natural. For in the state of infancy (in relation to the regeneration of man) spiritual things are in potency within; for spiritual life develops successively from one age to another, as from an egg. The age of infancy is as an egg to the age of childhood, and the age of childhood is as an egg to the age of youth and early manhood, and this as an egg to adult age; so that man is as it were being born continually. From this it is evident what is meant by goods both interior and natural which as yet have not acquired Divine life, and which are here signified by the flocks and the herds that are suckling. (See also what was said just above concerning the state of infancy, n. 4377.)
4379. And if they drive them on in one day, all the flocks will die. That this signifies delay and what is successive, and that otherwise they would not live, thus that they are to be prepared for conjunction, may be seen from the series itself. For in the things that precede, the subject treated of has been the conjunction of good with truths in general, but here it is concerning the same specifically. The very process of the instilling of truth into good is here described in the internal sense. What its nature is, may indeed in some measure appear from the explication in general, but not as to its arcana, which are innumerable. These arcana are manifest only to those who are in the light of heaven, and in some rude image to those who are in the light of the world, when into this light is admitted the light of heaven. This may be sufficiently evident from the fact that when a man is being born again he passes through the ages of life as does one who is born [naturally] and that the state which precedes is always as an egg relatively to the following one; thus that he is continually being conceived and born; and this not only when living in the world, but also to eternity when he comes into the other life; and yet he can never be perfected further than to be as an egg relatively to the things that still remain, which are without limit. From all this it is evident how innumerable are the things which take place in connection with man's regeneration, yet of which scarcely any are known to man; thus how great are the things here contained in the internal sense, in which the subject treated of is the state and manner of the successive instilling of good into truths.
Еще стоит добавить, что говоря по отношению к возрождению КАЖДОГО человека в Новой Церкви, "новое творение" на этапе Древнейшей Церкви, если его понимать не внешне-исторически, а духовно-исторически, это первое, изначальное, новое творение, и все последующие новые творения относятся к другим планам бытия человека, и они, в сравнении с первым, возможно, что уже не такие "новые". Но с другой стороны, на этапе Новой Церкви, после определенных последовательностей, все остановится понемногу исключительно новым.